exhumed some 'skeletons in the closet of Prodi ... A character that has funded a bloodthirsty dictator, he raised taxes to all Italians inventing new ones, poses as a teacher despite having a capacity equal to zero dialectic and who knew the exact location where he was found murdered Aldo Moro.
the Moro case and seances R. Prodi - G. Blacks
BACKGROUND: On April 3, 1978, during a seance in which it participates the future president of IRI, Romano Prodi, an entity [in the present case, as apparent from the minutes, the spirits of Don Sturzo La Pira, ndr] would indicate Gradoli as a place where he was held prisoner Aldo Moro.Sulla the alert from the beyond, April 6 Gradoli organize a patrol in a village in the province Viterbo. The Ministry of the Interior, who had previously received reports on Gradoli way, no one connects the two. And Moro's wife, Eleanor, to ask if it could be a way to Rome. Cossiga himself, according to testimony in committee by Agnese Moro, says no. In reality via Gradoli exists, and is on the pages following the session gialle.In Professor Prodi went to Rome - only two days later, April 4 - to convey an indication of Umberto Cavina, Head of Press Hon. Benigno Zaccagnini. And the second time it comes out as Gradoli. The first was a few days earlier. On 18 March, at 9:30 am, agents of the police station Flaminio New arise on the third floor of the building at number 96 Via Gradoli, a residential street on the Via Cassia. A very precise tip, perhaps from environments close to the secret services, reported that there, in 11, there's a den of Br agents knocking on fragile wooden door, but no answers. Opens the tenant instead of Home 9, Lucia Mokbel, and said he heard coming from the apartment of the suspect ticks similar to Morse. Following the rules of the police should then break down the door, or at least the building column. Instead they go away. At trial, Moro will present a service report grossly false, constructed retrospectively, according to which the neighbors had provided assurances about the honesty of the interior 11 of the tenant, the accountant Borghi, aka Mario Moretti. Will be proven wrong publicly, but never puniti.Il April 18 the door where maybe it was hidden, until a few days before, the same Aldo Moro, was finally broken. But not by police and carabinieri, but firefighters, who come to us because of flooding. Although the Red Brigades have always denied, it is a hoax because it organized the hideout is discovered: the phone of the shower is held up by a broom and pointed at a hole in the wall open with a scalpel so as to filter water better along the walls to the apartment of his neighbors, that fact will give the alarm. The flooding occurs the same day that a false statement of Br sends thousands of carabinieri and police to look for Moro's corpse in the lake ice of the Duchess. These two episodes are difficult to read. Some of the Brigades leadership in holding, many years later that the discovery of the hideout and the false statement pushed them to rush into operation Moro to the decision to remove the hostage, just as he wanted Moretti, represented the so-called "hard wing "The Red Brigades of June 10, 1981 Romano Prodi was called to testify before the Commission to respond Moro of events that would occur during the seance. The case was reopened in 1998 by the Parliamentary Commission of Inquiry on terrorism and massacres, in order to clarify the reasons that would brought on another research track of the prison of Moro and exclude the use of the name "Gradoli" was a way to inform them of the approach of the Red Brigades police homonym street, just off the street Cassia in Rome. Professor Prodi did not become available to be heard by the committee, unlike Alberto Mario Baldassarri and CLO (Minister of Industry in the Dini government and owner of the house in which the events took place), both present at the seance. On April 5, 2004 Romano Prodi as a witness shall be heard by the Parliamentary Commission of Inquiry on the Mitrokhin dossier activity Italian intelligence. According to the committee chairman, Paolo Guzzanti, Prodi has had the courage to speak the words seance, or a coffee cup and saucer. During the meeting, Hon. Fragala recalled the former president of IRI, an article in the weekly events, according to which Giuliana Conforto, daughter of George Comfort, KGB agent code-named Darius, and had hosted Morucci Valerio Adriana Faranda, brigades against the kidnapping of Moro . A friend of Conforto Luciana Bozzi, had rented the house via the command of Gradoli Br According to this view, not commented upon by Prodi, the KGB was to say the hideout via Gradoli and the staging of the seance was organized to cover the real source. A second argument, supported among others by Senator Francesco Cossiga - about the Moro case, which has always at least ambiguous statement - identifies the informant in someone in the area of \u200b\u200bsubversion of Autonomy Workers and workers' power. They say he was a university professor. Needless to say, Paolo Guzzanti, Francesco Cossiga and are more politically inclined to move the view of the murder decided and controlled by the secret services of the East, as opposed to the other prevailing hypothesis, namely that the reporting of the word Gradoli the forces of ' order is a double warning to Mario Moretti, a figure of terrorist issue and repeatedly described as infiltrated by the Italian secret services. The first: that the hideout was now blown away Gradoli. The second: that this issue should be closed as soon as possible with the murder of Aldo Moro and the demise of the project that he wanted a government of non-confidence, as unpalatable to the United States supported, among others, by the Communist Party.
(Sources: S. Flamigni, M. Gambino, the Moro case, Wikipedia; Christian Rocca, Il Foglio, 04.07.2004, Events, Media Newspapers)
Hearing Romano Prodi at the Commission Moro - June 10, 1981
PRESIDENT: I \u200b\u200bmust draw your attention to the fact that the Commission has taken up his statements in the formal testimony and the consequent liability which she may incur in connection with the Commission's duty to communicate ' judicial authority or any false statements reluctant (?)
Romano Prodi: I repeat what I wrote in my letter. On a rainy day in the country, with children and with people who think you will see later, are all here because they would make the so-called game of the dish (?) Exit Bolsena, Viterbo and Gradoli. Of course, no one has paid attention, then, in an atlas, we have seen that there is a country of Gradoli. We asked if anyone knew anything, and since no one knew anything, I felt it my duty, even at the risk of sounding ridiculous, how I feel right now, to report it (?)
CORAL: Long story feel less ridiculous as this feeling is a bit 'common to all? Excuse me, sir, I would say that the thoroughness of the Commission starts from an assumption that we must ensure real, and that is - I do not think much to the spirits - if there could have been able to inspire someone (?) Who participated actively in the game? You were so many, But a finger on the saucer who put him?
Romano Prodi: take turns: there were five children, was a funny thing. We do not believe the atmosphere of the spirits and that there was a medium. I will tell all, I also put his finger in the saucer (?)
PRESIDENT: There was a director of the games?
Romano Prodi: No. You see how they have taken over the newspapers as a mediumship session, which does not even know what it is, but instead was a collective game, as everyone did at that moment, I learned later.
Lapenta: Who threw the idea of \u200b\u200bthis game?
Romano Prodi: At first the landlord, I do not know? At first I was on the sidelines with the children and after the game intrigued me.
Flamigni: As it turned out the specification "house with basement"?
Romano Prodi: It came out ten thousand of these things came out of 'basement', 'water'. At this time do not even remember, the game went on for hours (?) I repeat that I did not take these things seriously and, of course, if it were not for that name, nor that I would not tell of it because I try be a reasonable man, honestly.
Flamigni: In testimony that she has made to the court says: "I was the one to communicate to Dr. Umberto Cavina, as well as the day before the Digos of Bologna through a university colleague, the news concerning the location: Gradoli in the province of Viterbo. In that statement, adding that it could be a house? "
Romano Prodi: Look, I did not remember even the little weight that I gave. It popped up a lot of these things! All said they did not know this country and this was important.
PRESIDENT: The news was so important that if he had been well used, probably things would change.
Romano Prodi: I never believed these things have been a case.
COLOMBO: Everyone was talking about a country?
Romano Prodi: Bolsena, Viterbo, Gradoli, it was the plaque VT; Volsini the mountains? Again, after we gave importance because we saw where they were, with map in hand, makes all the "ballotin" he wants?
CORAL: "Ballotin" stands for scams.
Romano Prodi: With the map in front of the front, she is no longer understand? Excuse the expression.
Flamigni: After the seance?
Romano Prodi: No, it was really a game.
Flamigni: You can not call seance.
Romano Prodi: I do not understand, I am told that it takes a medium.
Flamigni: Anyway, the result, the conclusion is that at least when it comes out the word "Gradoli" the importance is attached because it is communicated to the national secretariat of the DC, the Chief of Police, then, moves the entire apparatus .
Romano Prodi: When I informed Cavina told me that there were forty thousand of these things. Until the phone, it was not very important; for the sake (?) notify you (?)
Flamigni: She came specially to Rome to report to Cavina?
Romano Prodi: No, it was a convention can not remember what, and I had come to Rome.
Flamigni: How many days after the "joke"?
Romano Prodi: Two-three, I do not remember (?)
Flamigni: Who played the responses of the plate?
Romano Prodi: A bit 'all. It was simple, there were letters, lined up and write.
Flamigni: You should understand what exactly was the performance of the game (?) what were the questions asked.
Romano Prodi: The questions were: where is it? Why? Moro is alive or dead? Moreover, people who have done this before the 'saucer' know what it is and can give more comprehensive explanations.
WOODS: Who were the people who had done this before?
Romano Prodi II Professor Clò, for example, and others who respond because they are all here (?)
Flamigni: (?) Would be important to quantify what were the questions.
Romano Prodi: This has nothing to do with the technique of the game and it's obvious that I remember. The questions were: Where is Moro? What is the name the country, the place where it is? In what province? And water or land? It 's alive or dead?
Flamigni: What were the responses to each of these questions?
Romano Prodi on the technical issues involved here which may be given more detailed explanation of mine, however, there were letters on a sheet and plate, moving, and formed the words yes or no answer.
Flamigni: What's going on: one puts the finger on this plate?
Romano Prodi: No, all.
Flamigni: At one time part of a pulse for which the plate moves and goes on a letter?
Romano Prodi: Yes I must say that after this experience, I found many people who told me I did the same thing.
CORAL: (?) Usually, when the plate begins to move, the question asked is: who is the contact, the spirit with which we deal with.
Romano Prodi: It finally happened too, but no beginning. There were people who said: Don Sturzo interrogate or La Pira, but the first response, at first, were only yes or no.
CORAL: The party was therefore unknown.
Romano Prodi: At the beginning yes, then there were also various stakeholders including, as far as I remember, Don Sturzo (?)
CORAL: So it was a game with family, friends . A final question professor among the participants, there was also some experts in criminology?
Romano Prodi: No, absolutely not (?) Among those attending the session there was I, who am an economist, Professor Gobbo, who is professor of economic policy in Bologna, Professor Clo, that 's assignment applied economics at the University of Modena and is interested in energy, but oil is not fluid. There was also his brother who is a biologist (I do not know which branch, but I think genetics) and there was also the professor who is an economist Baldassarri, has the chair of political economy at the University of Bologna. Among women there were my wife, who is the economist, the wife of Professor Baldassarri, a graduate in economics, and others who do not know what they do professionally.
SCIASCIA: In the letter that was sent to the Commission, signed by all of you, it is said that the proposal to make the game started by Professor Clo.
Romano Prodi: Why was the host.
SCIASCIA: The letter adds that all took part in purely of curiosity and amusement, that the meeting took place in a playful way.
Romano Prodi: There were five children under ten years!
SCIASCIA: It also says that no one had any predisposition to type or parapsychology, however, practice these things, but practice some of these things someone had to have it!
Romano Prodi: Certainly at the level of the game, the technique was known, however, the practice of these things I would say that there was. Again, in retrospect, I realized that there are people who do it every night!
SCIASCIA: Among the twelve, someone had to practice these things?
Romano Prodi: Let's be clear on the word practice, Mr Sciascia. If someone had done it before you know it you can call for others, but in our letter we said that there was no one who, with intensity, were dedicated to this. of course there was someone who, at other times, he had done.
SCIASCIA: Frankly, I do not know.
Romano Prodi: I also do not know it! I did not have the slightest idea, and indeed, I very much intrigued.
SCIASCIA: The contradiction that emerges is this: if there is a session with people who believe in ghosts, or at least the possibility that similar phenomena occur, if there is a session like this - I repeat - and comes out as a result of us rushed to inform the Police and the Ministry of Interior I can understand very well, but all this takes place in a playful way, these children, for fun, and then Tell this to the Police through the mediation of someone who was not present at the game, and if so please inform the Interior Ministry, it seems to me excessive and contradictory.
Romano Prodi: But it turned out, Mrs, a name that no one knew! Even if we found ourselves in this ridiculous situation, we are rational beings. We asked everyone Gradoli none of you know if there is? If only someone had told Gradoli know, I would look good and say it. E 'became a name that nobody knew, so I thought I'd say for reasonableness.
SCIASCIA: I would say for unreasonableness.
Romano Prodi: The name as you wish. The real motivation is that with an unknown word, then that is reflected in the map at this point appeared just for the sake?
SCIASCIA: It could be part of the meaninglessness of the name game Gradoli.
Romano Prodi, however, was written in the paper of Touring.
SCIASCIA Ms. Anselmi said that followed the numbers that turn out to correspond to both the distance from Viterbo Gradoli country is the house number and street within Gradoli.
Romano Prodi: This just does not seem there was in the newspaper? SCIASCIA: The lady says she has heard this from Dr. Cavina.
Romano Prodi: Honestly I do not .. I would not be difficult to say.
CORAL: Cavina there at the appointment in the street number.
Romano Prodi: Maybe there's clipboard because after we saw on paper, the highway, the nearby mountains. The important thing is that it was the name of a country that by all accounts no one present knew. I understand that the whole atmosphere was unreasonable, though?
SCIASCIA: It seems to me crucial that you do not know the name. Viterbo was known and could very well be just Viterbo.
Romano Prodi: If it had been Viterbo, I would not have minded because you can always make up a word you know.
SCIASCIA: Who decided to communicate the result of sitting outside?
Romano Prodi: I did it because I was the only person who knew someone in Rome. I spoke with everyone, with Andreatta etc. Not that I phoned the emergency, I said I go to Rome and I communicate. This was decided once it became known that this country that nobody knew existed.
SCIASCIA: Now a question that I will at all. Have you ever known anyone accused or suspected of terrorism?
Romano Prodi: Never.
Covatta: The sense of the question is if someone had an interest to inspire the spirits.
Romano Prodi 's always the question that I always place myself.
BOSCO: To the question that has arisen, how he responded? That is, if someone could have inspired the spirits.
Romano Prodi absolutely rule it out.
BOSCO: So it was spirits.
Romano Prodi or chance? I do not know? It seems to me that the sense of Covatta's question is to ask if anyone wanted to do "the mischievous", pushing in a certain way or slowing down. This no. On the other hand?
Flamigni: If we had listened to a reference of that session in a very committed and that the players really believed in spiritualism and the ability to have some strength in help, then I'd give an explanation, but just because Professor Prodi speaks of this as a game, my curiosity is accentuated. I believe that anyone would even know. With this in mind to say that I want to know the actual questions and answers that have come out.
Romano Prodi: I said the actual questions and answers. One problem that arises for such a thing is just that contained in his application. He believes that when it came out the name of street Gradoli I will not be placed on problem of wondering if there was someone who was smart? Otherwise I would not be here in this situation where I feel very embarrassed and extremely ridiculous (?)
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